{"id":175288,"date":"2024-10-02T16:30:49","date_gmt":"2024-10-02T06:30:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/propertyupdate.com.au\/?p=175288"},"modified":"2024-08-02T09:06:29","modified_gmt":"2024-08-01T23:06:29","slug":"exploring-the-population-rivalry-melbourne-vs-sydney","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/propertyupdate.com.au\/exploring-the-population-rivalry-melbourne-vs-sydney\/","title":{"rendered":"Exploring the population rivalry: Melbourne vs. Sydney"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There was a lot of talk last year about Melbourne\u2019s population overtaking Sydney.<\/p>\n<p>This is because there are two main definitions for the metropolitan areas of all the capitals, and both were updated for 2022 and released by ABS last month.<\/p>\n<p>So, there are essentially two competing definitions for what constitutes an Australian capital city.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-160641 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/population2.jpg\" alt=\"Population2\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/population2.jpg 800w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/population2-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/population2-300x225.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"toc_link\" id=\"greater-capital-city-statistical-area\">Greater Capital City Statistical Area<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The most commonly used one is called Greater Capital City Statistical Area.<\/p>\n<p>This is a stable, long-term boundary that includes the major metropolitan area and many outlying urban and rural districts surrounding our capitals.<\/p>\n<p>The ABS definition is based primarily on labour markets \u2013 it\u2019s the catchment zone for workers where a large share of work is within the built-up area of the city.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"toc_link\" id=\"significant-urban-areas\">Significant Urban Areas<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>The second, lesser-used definition is called Significant Urban Areas, and it is defined not just for our capitals, but for every urban area in Australia with at least 10,000 people. <div class=\"adplugg-tag\" data-adplugg-zone=\"the_sentiment_campaign_body_\"><\/div><\/p>\n<p>These form a tighter boundary around the built-up area and exclude outlying rural parts of the capital city.<\/p>\n<h2><span class=\"toc_link\" id=\"what-do-all-of-these-mean\">What do all of these mean?<\/span><\/h2>\n<p>On the larger boundary \u2013 and for mine the more accurate measure - <a href=\"https:\/\/metropole.com.au\/metropole-sydney\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sydney<\/a> remains Australia\u2019s largest city, but on the smaller Significant Urban Area boundary, <a href=\"https:\/\/metropole.com.au\/metropole-melbourne\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Melbourne<\/a> is now larger.<\/p>\n<p>This happened when ABS revised the Significant Urban Area boundaries after the 2021 Census.<\/p>\n<p>There were a few changes, but the primary one which affected the Melbourne population was the inclusion of several new fast-growing suburbs on the western flank of the city.<\/p>\n<p>So magically Melbourne is now 37,000 people larger than Sydney.<\/p>\n<p>Not worth the headlines really nor a Missive post, but peeps have asked for an explanation.<\/p>\n<p>But \u2013 of course - it\u2019s not just Melbourne and Sydney which have competing urban definitions.<\/p>\n<p>The table below outlines how all the capital city populations look at June 2022, on the two main different ABS measures.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-175290 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capital-city-populations.jpg\" alt=\"Capital City Populations\" width=\"1234\" height=\"614\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capital-city-populations.jpg 1234w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capital-city-populations-300x149.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capital-city-populations-800x398.jpg 800w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Capital-city-populations-600x299.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1234px) 100vw, 1234px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Also, here are some maps of Sydney, Melbourne and <a href=\"https:\/\/metropole.com.au\/metropole-brisbane\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Brisbane<\/a> showing the geographic differences between the two urban ABS measurements:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-175291 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Sydney-ABS.jpg\" alt=\"Sydney Abs\" width=\"1216\" height=\"706\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Sydney-ABS.jpg 1216w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Sydney-ABS-300x174.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Sydney-ABS-1192x692.jpg 1192w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Sydney-ABS-800x464.jpg 800w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Sydney-ABS-600x348.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1216px) 100vw, 1216px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-175292 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Melbourne-ABS.jpg\" alt=\"Melbourne Abs\" width=\"1211\" height=\"693\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Melbourne-ABS.jpg 1211w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Melbourne-ABS-300x172.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Melbourne-ABS-1209x692.jpg 1209w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Melbourne-ABS-800x458.jpg 800w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Melbourne-ABS-600x343.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1211px) 100vw, 1211px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-175293 img-responsive\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Brisbane-ABS.jpg\" alt=\"Brisbane Abs\" width=\"1196\" height=\"787\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Brisbane-ABS.jpg 1196w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Brisbane-ABS-300x197.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Brisbane-ABS-1052x692.jpg 1052w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Brisbane-ABS-800x526.jpg 800w, https:\/\/cdn.propertyupdate.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Brisbane-ABS-600x395.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1196px) 100vw, 1196px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There is another school of thought which considers Greater Sydney to be part of a still larger urban area including Newcastle and Wollongong, which apart from natural barriers now sprawls over 250km from Raymond Terrace in the north to Kiama in the south.<\/p>\n<p>By this definition, the Sydney-Newcastle-Wollongong urban area holds over 6.1 million people and is well ahead of Melbourne, which would be about 5.3 million if you did the equivalent exercise and went outwards to include Geelong, Warragul, Gisborne and a few other outlying centres.<\/p>\n<p>When you do the same for south-east Queensland \u2013 including the Sunshine Coast, the Gold Coast and Toowoomba - you get about 3.9 million residents.<\/p>\n<p>However, in the end, the debate is fairly moot, and it\u2019s only the old Sydney\u2013Melbourne rivalry that keeps it going.<\/p>\n<p>Probably the most truthful thing one can say is that both cities have a similar population of around 5 million and are experiencing similar issues, including increasing traffic congestion, low housing affordability, higher levels of angst, more pollution and a range of social\/community tensions to name just a few.<\/p>\n<p>But that won\u2019t stop the comparison!<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><em>Editor's Note: this article was originally published last year, but has been republished for the benefit of our many new subscribers.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #808080;\">Follow Michael\u2019s terrific\u00a0Matusik Missive\u00a0Substack\u00a0<a style=\"color: #808080;\" href=\"https:\/\/matusik.substack.com\/\" rel=\"\">here<\/a>.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"adplugg-tag\" data-adplugg-zone=\"the_sentiment_campaign_mobile_\"><\/div>\r\n<div class=\"adplugg-tag\" data-adplugg-zone=\"the_sentiment_campaign_desktop_\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There was a lot of talk last year about Melbourne\u2019s population overtaking Sydney. 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